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Exercise / Workout thread

Started by skb, March 09, 2016, 10:37:06 PM

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walkerwally1

6417 steps yesterday.  Actually I got a bit lazy towards the end of the day but I still got up and walked each hour. 
Barbara, I am not sure if walking has any effect on my bg, at least I have not seen any relationship.  I do know some exercise like strength training can definitely can but walking I am not sure.  Then we are all different so it can vary from one person to another.
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

bigskygal

9,720 steps yesterday.

I don't know Wally, I think I was just grasping at straws...

T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%   A1c 6/12  5.7%.  A1c 4% 7/13 to 12/16.
12-16  5.1%.  6/18 5.3%.  6/19  5.7%.  6/20 5.7%.  7/21 5.2%.  8/22 5.5%. 7/23 6%. 7/24 6.8%.
Off meds 3/15, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.

skb

Quote from: walkerwally1 on February 06, 2018, 11:02:59 AM
Barbara, I am not sure if walking has any effect on my bg, at least I have not seen any relationship.

A body is too complex an organism to be fully understood, ever. Scientifically, all exercise / movement requires some glucose to be used up and therefore should help with BG. So, the reverse should also be true.
No meds since June 2011
Controlled by Diet & Exercise
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walkerwally1

Quote from: skb on February 06, 2018, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: walkerwally1 on February 06, 2018, 11:02:59 AM
Barbara, I am not sure if walking has any effect on my bg, at least I have not seen any relationship.

A body is too complex an organism to be fully understood, ever. Scientifically, all exercise / movement requires some glucose to be used up and therefore should help with BG. So, the reverse should also be true.
I certainly agree with that.  Experts really only partially understand the body and how it works.  OTOH, according to Volek and Finney if you are in Ketosis you are burning fat in place of glucose.  I am definitely in ketosis but I am only going by what I observe in my own circumstances (N=1) and it sure can be different for someone else.
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

walkerwally1

8624 steps yesterday.  It is a lot easier to get steps when the things you are doing require walking from one place to another.   :D
Another example of how observational studies can be erroneous.  I had my lowest fasting bg this morning for a while.  I also walked more than I have for a while.  I also ate the lowest carb total for the day that I have for a while.  Depending on what someone wanted to prove it could be claimed that the walking caused the better bg, or that the low carb did it or the combination did it.  The whole picture needs to be taken into account. 
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

bigskygal

8,334 steps yesterday. Lots of  ~ cat ~ in lap.

One thing I do know is that I am not in ketosis at this time. I have been having a bit of a problem with the high fats so backed off some.

T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%   A1c 6/12  5.7%.  A1c 4% 7/13 to 12/16.
12-16  5.1%.  6/18 5.3%.  6/19  5.7%.  6/20 5.7%.  7/21 5.2%.  8/22 5.5%. 7/23 6%. 7/24 6.8%.
Off meds 3/15, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.

skb

Quote from: walkerwally1 on February 07, 2018, 10:50:13 AM
OTOH, according to Volek and Finney if you are in Ketosis you are burning fat in place of glucose.  I am definitely in ketosis but I am only going by what I observe in my own circumstances (N=1) and it sure can be different for someone else.

Agreed. Therefore, I was careful to use the words "some glucose".

I remember one particular discussion on the other forum on the subject of extended fasting (by extension ketosis) and the body's nutrient requirements at such times. IMO in glycolysis or ketosis it's always a mix of the macro nutrients, in varying ratios, depending on the body's status. Even in extreme ketosis some glucose is always required, though it could be as low as 5%.
No meds since June 2011
Controlled by Diet & Exercise
Member of 5% A1c Club

Blog : Metabolically Challenged

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rocky

Hello everyone,

I have started my gymming as promised but I have not yet reached my full workout potential. And haven't started running as yet, but soon.
My life is based on a true story.

walkerwally1

9914 steps yesterday.  The weather is helping but the main thing is that my knee is not causing me any problems.  Seems like I was a bit premature in saying the injections did not work.  At least for now.  I will be interested in seeing how long this holds up.
Yeah SKB, after almost 5 years you would think that I would be an expert on the subject but I keep re-learning stuff.  I know that the body needs at least a small amount of glucose, mainly for the brain and the part that cannot use ketones.  Also I know that the body will create glucose from protein and I have to watch the amount of protein I take in along with carbs.  Like you said, the body is a very complex organism and there are often no easy answers.
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

bigskygal

8,380 steps yesterday.

T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%   A1c 6/12  5.7%.  A1c 4% 7/13 to 12/16.
12-16  5.1%.  6/18 5.3%.  6/19  5.7%.  6/20 5.7%.  7/21 5.2%.  8/22 5.5%. 7/23 6%. 7/24 6.8%.
Off meds 3/15, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.

walkerwally1

9419 steps yesterday.  Still doing OK and my knee isn't giving me any problems yet.
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

bigskygal

11,285 steps yesterday. Surprised myself!

T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%   A1c 6/12  5.7%.  A1c 4% 7/13 to 12/16.
12-16  5.1%.  6/18 5.3%.  6/19  5.7%.  6/20 5.7%.  7/21 5.2%.  8/22 5.5%. 7/23 6%. 7/24 6.8%.
Off meds 3/15, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.

walkerwally1

9047 steps yesterday.  I read an article about where the 10,000 step goal came from.  It turns out that there is no scientific reason for it and it was the creation of a Chinese manufacture of pedometers to promote the product.  It has been picked up by fitness gurus and other manufactures of fitness trackers and has become a goal without any real evidence to back it up as really beneficial.  OTOH, it seems like it is not a bad goal for many people but I don't think it is a golden rule for every one. 
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"

bigskygal

10,745 steps yesterday.

That is interesting Wally. Although I have my stepz goal still set at 7,000 steps, I do feel better on days when I get to 10,000 or more steps.

T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%   A1c 6/12  5.7%.  A1c 4% 7/13 to 12/16.
12-16  5.1%.  6/18 5.3%.  6/19  5.7%.  6/20 5.7%.  7/21 5.2%.  8/22 5.5%. 7/23 6%. 7/24 6.8%.
Off meds 3/15, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.

walkerwally1

5590 steps yesterday.  I was doing great for the first part of the day but I kind of pooped out in the afternoon.  Woke up with a bit of a sore throat this morning.  Hope I am not coming down with something.
Yeah Barbara, I think goals are good but probably need to be based more on individual ability rather than some arbitrary number.  OTOH, I do feel better when I can get closer to 10K if I can.  My Garmin tracker is set to automatically calculate my goal each day based on my past history.  I'm not sure exactly how it is calculated but it seems to take an average of the past daily steps and adding a bit to that.  That seems to work well.
Type 2 since 1993.  Control with LCHF diet. 
A1c 5.4%   8/5/2024
Living in Mojave Desert, California, USA
"The 50-50-90 Rule.  Anytime you have a 50-50% chance of getting something right, there is a 90% chance you will get it wrong"